Transmission Design Question??

Guys,
Im not gonna try and reinvent the automatic transmission but I was thinking about a diiferant way of working it. This might be a stupid question or not, if it is dont chew me up, Im just thinking. Considering how much torque our motors put on the transmission and then on top of that you have the massive torque multiplication of the TC, I was thinkin why wasnt the automatic transmission designed with the TC on the output shaft instead of on the front of the tranny???? The only strain the transmissions internal parts would have to bear would be that of the engines torque and not any more from the TC. Then once the engines power has gone through the tranny, it would then be multiplyied by the TC, and then deleivered to the Driveline. Im sure you could just have a direct connection from the flywheel to the transmissions input shaft, to drive the pump and all. Why wouldnt it work???? Fern Sy#477
 

Hu Ryde

Donating Member
The convertor kinda almost act's as a buffer between the engine and tranny. If the convertor were at the back of the tranny that would put all the internal parts of the tranny through alot more work because they would always be spinning with the engine. I personaly think the convertor is fine where it is. Putting it in back of the tranny would put a ton more stress where it's not intended in the drive line. There isnt much there to support a free riding convertor.

At least your thinking outside the box. Keep it up man and you might come up with something crazy and functional. And maybe make some big money off the idea. Later.
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Transmission Design Question??

truckins10 said:
Guys,
Im not gonna try and reinvent the automatic transmission but I was thinking about a diiferant way of working it. This might be a stupid question or not, if it is dont chew me up, Im just thinking. Considering how much torque our motors put on the transmission and then on top of that you have the massive torque multiplication of the TC, I was thinkin why wasnt the automatic transmission designed with the TC on the output shaft instead of on the front of the tranny???? The only strain the transmissions internal parts would have to bear would be that of the engines torque and not any more from the TC. Then once the engines power has gone through the tranny, it would then be multiplyied by the TC, and then deleivered to the Driveline. Im sure you could just have a direct connection from the flywheel to the transmissions input shaft, to drive the pump and all. Why wouldnt it work???? Fern Sy#477

lots of dirt track cars do something like this in that they run an automatic with a plate between the eng and trans but no converter. they are push started. it's sort of in the ball part of where your thinkin but, the conv also acts like a huge shock absorber between the eng and trans and cushons the thing somewhat.

a direct drive like what you would do by loacting the conv on the rear would break lots of 700 parts...and oyu would still have an impossible time of making the whole idea work.

weid but neat. keep it up.

I'd like to see something like the C6 has with a trans located in the rear.
more do-able but still not even close to easy.
 

bigtime

Sy-Ty Builder
Re: Transmission Design Question??

jwaller said:
truckins10 said:
Guys,

I'd like to see something like the C6 has with a trans located in the rear.
more do-able but still not even close to easy.

BOY would that make a Looooong front shaft! :lol: :lol:
 

jwaller

Evil Genius/SyTy Guru
Re: Transmission Design Question??

biggtime said:
jwaller said:
truckins10 said:
Guys,

I'd like to see something like the C6 has with a trans located in the rear.
more do-able but still not even close to easy.

BOY would that make a Looooong front shaft! :lol: :lol:
yeah. but if your dreaming why not dream big. hell why not? I dont see a problem with it. maybe then you could actually just a driveshaft with some strength and not this tiny 1 or 2 inch stuff...
 

bigtime

Sy-Ty Builder
I believe that somewhere you have to make the decision of race truck
or street truck. This point will be different for each person. If you want
a 'full time race truck' then put a turbo 400w/brake,
get one of those mudbogger aluminum transfer cases and have at it.
 

ed hess

race or get outta the way
biggtime said:
I believe that somewhere you have to make the decision of race truck
or street truck. This point will be different for each person. If you want
a 'full time race truck' then put a turbo 400w/brake,
get one of those mudbogger aluminum transfer cases and have at it.

and if you make a decision to have a daily driver / tuesday nite bracket racer, get an automatic shifting thm 400.

HINT

ed

and while your at it get one with the super bell front housing. :)
 
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