Crimson93Ty
PITA new guy
Re: Th400
This conversation is pretty interesting. It's pretty cool that even though a Syclone showed better times with no changes except a 4L80E and the weight is "still" an issue. The planetaries are huge, the shafts are huge and the clutches are huge. Way huge safety factor for the little trucks. But....it's heavy. It doesn't matter. People will always feel very strongly toward a specific trans. I've also heard price....Price is driven by the market. Waller and others showed how a decent 700 could be built without spending $8000. Eventually it will become known that a 4L80E can be built without spending $6000 to make it fit. It'll just take a marketing curve. To dispell any rumor about the 4L80E vs the 400, the 4L80E IS a TH400 with OD added onto the front of it. Many of the same parts are in it. So the only extra cost of the 4L80E vs the 400 is your gonna pay more for the lockup converter and you need a controller. You'd have spent the SAME money for a billet 700 lockup converter as you would a billet 4L80E lockup converter and you have to modify shaft lengths to install a 400 anyway. Trans crossmember for a 400, yep has to be modified. What you should do is hold onto your 700 and wait for the "newness" of the 4L80E to wear off and when the price comes down, get one. By then the big thing will the the 6L80E (derived from the allison) and 4L80E's will eventually be like the 700's. Everything has a cycle. Just give it time.
This conversation is pretty interesting. It's pretty cool that even though a Syclone showed better times with no changes except a 4L80E and the weight is "still" an issue. The planetaries are huge, the shafts are huge and the clutches are huge. Way huge safety factor for the little trucks. But....it's heavy. It doesn't matter. People will always feel very strongly toward a specific trans. I've also heard price....Price is driven by the market. Waller and others showed how a decent 700 could be built without spending $8000. Eventually it will become known that a 4L80E can be built without spending $6000 to make it fit. It'll just take a marketing curve. To dispell any rumor about the 4L80E vs the 400, the 4L80E IS a TH400 with OD added onto the front of it. Many of the same parts are in it. So the only extra cost of the 4L80E vs the 400 is your gonna pay more for the lockup converter and you need a controller. You'd have spent the SAME money for a billet 700 lockup converter as you would a billet 4L80E lockup converter and you have to modify shaft lengths to install a 400 anyway. Trans crossmember for a 400, yep has to be modified. What you should do is hold onto your 700 and wait for the "newness" of the 4L80E to wear off and when the price comes down, get one. By then the big thing will the the 6L80E (derived from the allison) and 4L80E's will eventually be like the 700's. Everything has a cycle. Just give it time.
