Redoing the trans

[IGottaSy]

Probuilt automatics...

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Complete description of parts in the rebuild kit:

"Front Pump"
Seal retainer
Seal, late design
Teflon bushing, late design
10-vane rotor with vanes, slide, rotor guide & pin assembly
Trans-Go Steel rings & priming spring
Intermediate/reverse boost valve, (.296)
Main boost valve, (.471)
New replacement stator support

"Clutches, Steels And Pressure Plates"
4 Borg-Warner reverse/input clutches .078
4 Reverse/input "low drag" Turbulator steels .078
1 Reverse waved steel (eliminates the belleville spring that tears up the inside of the drum)
5 Borg-Warner forward clutches .070
5 Forward steels .090
2 Borg-Warner overrun clutches .078
2 Overrun steels .091
5 Low/reverse clutches, Borg-Warner .087
5 Low/reverse steels, Turbulator .068

"Modified" Raybestos Z-Pak, 16 one sided clutch/steel setup for the 3-4 pack.
Comes with 16 one sided clutch/steel arrangement
1 3-4 bottom pressure plate .128
1 3-4 top pressure plate .145
1 3-4 snap ring .062

Borg Warner dual cage 29 element design
GM HD (heat treated splines) sunshell
Trans-Go HD replacement forward springs & 3-4 springs (good up to 7,800 rpm)
Input to output shaft seal (Viton)
Borg-Warner Hi-Energy 2-4 band
Corvette 2nd gear servo
Borg-Warner Low/reverse roller assembly (late design)
Paper & rubber (gasket) kit
New governor gear
Case connector 3 prong
Transmission filter (OEM)
Converter solenoid & governor filter
Bushing kit with 3 teflon
Thrust washer kit
Sealing ring kit
HD Torrington Bearing kit
Trans-Go Shift kit (Heavy Duty) w/accumulation for nice part throttle shifts
Vamac 3 lip rear seal
New Forward accumulator piston and 4th accumulator piston
Modified second accumulator piston, 24219937 accumulator housing with hardened (RC52) thin pin, to replace your 2nd accumulator housing. This gives better part throttle shifts
New oem Forward and 4th accumulator pins
Dual Feed input shaft checkball capsule for better lockup
Details

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Part Number HDRK700L87ZPAK
Price: $692.59
Options

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GM Reverse/Input Drum
TransGo Separator Plate
Quantity

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*New reverse input drum $85

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

Maddog's...

$695
Description
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Mad Dog Level 3 Rebuild Kit 700R4/4L60
Mad Dog's Level 2 700R4/4L60 Rebuild Kit is rated to hold up to 650HP. This kit contains the following:




Features
-all new lip seals
-all new gaskets
-new filter
-all new steels
-all new bushings
-all new raybestos clutches
-new 29 element hardened, double-gauged input sprag
-corvette servo
-updated, rebuilt pump kit
-hardened pump rings
-10 vane rotor pump
-new slider
-new guide
-new pump vanes
-hardened sun shell
-500 boost valve
-valve body reprogramming kit
-wide pro-series band
-teflon-coated front pump bushing
-aluminum accumulators with heavy-duty accumulator springs
-special 3/4 clutch pack which will alow you to add at least 3 to 4 more clutches
-sonnax high performance, wide-open throttle valve (WOT)
-raybestos Z-Pak
-sonnax reverse boost

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

700R4 SS Mega Monster Complete Transmission Rebuild Kit
Order a "Monster-in-a-Box" and build your own Monster Transmission.Due to high demand, we are now offering complete Monster rebuild kits for our most popular transmissions. Build it yourself and save!*Our Monster Rebuild Kits are moderately priced and offer an exceptional value for the performance minded street enthusiast.*This 700R4 rebuild kit is*rated to 650hp and 600 ft lbs of torque.*Everything is included that we use in our transmission, see the list below for details.

SS Mega Monster Rebuild Kit Includes:
▪ Rear Heavy Duty 5 Pinion Planetary (Planetary Only)
▪ Front Heavy Duty 5 Pinion Planetary (Planetary Only)
▪ Chrome Transmission Pan with drain plug
▪ Gaskets
▪ O-Rings
▪ Lip Seals
▪ Sealing Rings
▪ 700R4 Corvette 2nd Gear Servo
▪ 700R4 Billet Servo 4th Gear & Cover
▪ .500 Boost Valve
▪ Alto Kolene Steel Kit
▪ Alto Red Eagle Clutch Kit
▪ 700R4 Filter
▪ 700R4 Alto Wide High Performance Band
▪ Teflon Pump Bushing
▪ Delco Front Seal Retainer Clip
▪ 700R4 Superior Shift Reprogramming Kit
▪ Hardened Pump Rings
▪ 700R4 10 Vane Rotor Gear
▪ 700R4 10 Vane Rotor Guide
▪ 700R4 High Rev Vanes
▪ 700R4 Heavy Duty Throttle Valve Spring
▪ Heavy Duty "Beast" Sun Shell
▪ Heavy Duty 28 Element Sprag
▪ Heavy Duty Wide Rear Sprag

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

I'm liking the first one above all. Seems more complete. Anything else that was overlooked in their kits??? Probably getting a 10.5" redone to 2800rpm instead of 3K. Please post opinions. Thanks in advance!
Jr.

They are all around $600-$700 Kits

 

[Slyclone]

Re: Redoing the trans

I think my trans is wiped out..?? would this be a good place to start with a $600 kit or will I wipe out another trans with parts. Im looking for some quality parts to put in the trans. whats my best option at this point?

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

I think my trans is wiped out..?? would this be a good place to start with a $600 kit or will I wipe out another trans with parts. Im looking for some quality parts to put in the trans. whats my best option at this point?

From what little I know... If you have a stock motor and no mods, then plain rebuild will do. If you have bolt ons that actually yield performance gains, then upgrade weak parts(research). If you are making serious power, 450hp-up((serious for the 4l60 capabilities) then aftermarket unit. DYI not recommended. Pay for warranty have insurance. DYI tough luck if it fails. :2cents:

 

[jamnut]

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I like the 3rd one, always had good luck with alto clutches and beast sun shells, but in 4L60's haven't used them in 700's, but pretty much the same guts.

 

[wildphil]

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I have the first kit installed in my truck right now. Used for 2 or 3k on a decent build. So far its held up with no issues. Great kit and that company has the best customer service.

Should have my new engine installed within a few weeks. We will just have to see how long the 700r can live with it.

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

I have the first kit installed in my truck right now. Used for 2 or 3k on a decent build. So far its held up with no issues. Great kit and that company has the best customer service.

Should have my new engine installed within a few weeks. We will just have to see how long the 700r can live with it.

Did they install the kit as listed or did you use any original parts such as the boost valve?
I like the clutch and steel on that one too. I'll probably order the Beast sunshell as an upgrade.

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

I like the 3rd one, always had good luck with alto clutches and beast sun shells, but in 4L60's haven't used them in 700's, but pretty much the same guts.

I don't think I want kolene steels. Is that list pretty accurate or are there mor parts to this kit? Doesn't mention governor gear, for example.

 

[wildphil]

Re: Redoing the trans

Did they install the kit as listed or did you use any original parts such as the boost valve?
I like the clutch and steel on that one too. I'll probably order the Beast sunshell as an upgrade.

I did get the Beast. Call the contact number. The guy that owns the company is very helpful. I think his name is Dane.

 

[jamnut]

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I don't think I want kolene steels. Is that list pretty accurate or are there mor parts to this kit? Doesn't mention governor gear, for example.

I've never used that whole kit, just a fan of the Alto's and Beast. I have a 4L60 in a 99 Z28 that makes 780 RWHP on a 200 shot so lots of torque and have very good luck in a 3600# car 3800# with me in it running 9.7X and cutting 1.4X short times. Probably have over 200 passes on that transmission and about 4k street miles and it's held up well surprised me. I was ready to go with a 4L80 on that car if the 60 didn't hold up, but so far so good.

 

[ranger]

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Hey,

I don't see the price of the third kit? Also, where do you get these kits from? I don't see that, unless I missed it.

Thanks!

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

First one is ProBuilt Automatics
Second is Mad Dog
Opened post with those words then posted kit contents.

Hey,

I don't see the price of the third kit? Also, where do you get these kits from? I don't see that, unless I missed it.

Thanks!

Best,

Ranger
Aiken, SC

 

[IGottaSy]

Re: Redoing the trans

CKPerfomance...

two more kits

HIGH PERFORMANCE OVERHAUL KIT A #7RK/HPA $269.00
All of the parts included in this kit are engineered to be installed in all transmissions behind engines producing up to 750 foot pounds of torque. This kit includes the general overhaul kit #24RK/G,5 radial grooved forward clutches and steels,2 radial grooved overrun clutches and steels,8 high energy 3-4 clutches and thick steels(updated over the factory 6) ,5 lo reverse clutches and steels,4 reverse input clutches,and an oversize 2/4 red racing band with welded anchors.Pump reconditioning kit with heavy duty pump priming springs,hardened vane rings,new rotor guide and 10 pump vanes.Heavy duty lock up solenoid. Complete bushing kit(with Teflon lined pump and tailshaft bushings), and a complete thrust washer kit including front end play selective washers.

HIGH PERFORMANCE OVERHAUL KIT B #7RK/HPB $429.00
All of the parts included in this kit are engineered to be installed in all transmissions behind engines producing up to 750 foot pounds of torque.This kit includes the general overhaul kit #24RK/G,5 radial grooved forward clutches and steels,2 radial grooved overrun clutches and steels, 8 high energy 3-4 racing clutches and thick steels(updated over the factory 6) ,5 lo reverse clutches and steels,4 reverse input clutches,oversize 2/4 red racing band with welded anchors.Pump reconditioning kit with heavy duty pump priming springs,hardened vane rings,new rotor guide and 10 pump vanes.Heavy duty lock up solenoid.Updated 29 element input sprag, premium lo roller clutch,and " THE BEAST" extreme duty sun shell.Complete bushing kit(with Teflon lined pump and tailshaft bushings), and a complete thrust washer kit including front end play selective washers.

 

[jamnut]

Re: Redoing the trans

CKPerfomance...

two more kits

HIGH PERFORMANCE OVERHAUL KIT A #7RK/HPA $269.00
All of the parts included in this kit are engineered to be installed in all transmissions behind engines producing up to 750 foot pounds of torque. This kit includes the general overhaul kit #24RK/G,5 radial grooved forward clutches and steels,2 radial grooved overrun clutches and steels,8 high energy 3-4 clutches and thick steels(updated over the factory 6) ,5 lo reverse clutches and steels,4 reverse input clutches,and an oversize 2/4 red racing band with welded anchors.Pump reconditioning kit with heavy duty pump priming springs,hardened vane rings,new rotor guide and 10 pump vanes.Heavy duty lock up solenoid. Complete bushing kit(with Teflon lined pump and tailshaft bushings), and a complete thrust washer kit including front end play selective washers.

HIGH PERFORMANCE OVERHAUL KIT B #7RK/HPB $429.00
All of the parts included in this kit are engineered to be installed in all transmissions behind engines producing up to 750 foot pounds of torque.This kit includes the general overhaul kit #24RK/G,5 radial grooved forward clutches and steels,2 radial grooved overrun clutches and steels, 8 high energy 3-4 racing clutches and thick steels(updated over the factory 6) ,5 lo reverse clutches and steels,4 reverse input clutches,oversize 2/4 red racing band with welded anchors.Pump reconditioning kit with heavy duty pump priming springs,hardened vane rings,new rotor guide and 10 pump vanes.Heavy duty lock up solenoid.Updated 29 element input sprag, premium lo roller clutch,and " THE BEAST" extreme duty sun shell.Complete bushing kit(with Teflon lined pump and tailshaft bushings), and a complete thrust washer kit including front end play selective washers.

I have a CK kit in my 200R4 in my Turbo regal, been in there for about 5 years with about 4-5k miles on it, hundreds of street hits and 50-60 mid 9 second track passes with no issues at all.

I think that all of the kits you posted should be good kits.

Are you going to install the full kit including the shift kits that come with the rebuild kits? I will be redoing my sy trans in the near future, but since the Sy/Ty trans comes with an Excellent valve body and good shift programming, I will not be running the shift kits or if they come with valve bodies also won't run them either.

 

[IGottaSy]

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I got a good transmission from a member here. Since it is out, I thought I would take advantage of better technology and redo it using better parts. I won't be using a shift kit. My truck has minor bolts ons at this point. I am liking CK kits and will most likely get one next week. CK is very honest and well known in the Buick forums as you mentioned your having one of his 200r4 kits. The only missing ingredient is a knowledgeable transmission builder. I'm going to give a local guy the benefit of the doubt and see if he knows what he claims. Hoping to realize the savings of shipping costs if I were to have a vendor do the whole thing.:tup:

So far, $550 for the "good" transmission soon to be "better" plus I have a spare.
$550 for the labor including R&R&R-removal, rebuild and re-install
$500 for parts including fluid and upgrades

Those are approximate. I was quoted $1500-1600 from vendors just to rebuild my transmission. Extra to put it in plus the transport costs of the truck. Too rich for my blood. I'll just need a 2800 stall to complement that aspect of the drivetrain.
Turbo is rebuilt but looking at the 20G upgrade from Kinugawa. I think I will spring for that one while stuff is out.
Engine running decent at 110K+ miles-knock on wood!

All this is still cheaper than an "indestructible" E transmission swap.