Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Ok boys and girls, Ive put together some solid information and am going to try and share it the best I can with everyone. First let me start by saying this, although all the info is here on this in various posts and links, it took me several hours and coming back while I was actually doing it. So hopefully, this will be enough to not have people confused.

Mod Pro's and Con's:

PRO's: CON's:
Eliminate Rag joint Machine work involved (or semi tedious grinding)
Eliminate CV joint
Uses two U-joints
Bolt on deal with little modification
Looks much much cleaner than stock
Cheap mod
Fights steering slop

Im going to start off saying that this can be done by anybody who has coomon sense and has decent or good skills with a grinder, sawzall and a Dremel. You have to start with a trip to the junk yard. I got mine off of an '88 Jeep Cherokee 4x4. I looked at some 2x4 and 4x4 and didnt really notice any differences. Now these years went from 87ish to 94 I believe, like TRY ME said in one of his posts, its the boxy style. And its not in the sport or the grand. I only say this part because I didnt see any in the JY.

Once you have your shaft, go home :lol: I paid $8 for my shaft. First thing, pull the shaft apart, mine was old and stcuk but I got a vise and put a pipe wrench snug on the lower half and gently tapped it out. Once the shaft is out you want to grab the inner shaft and cut off 5" with a sawzall and you should have somethign like this:


Now for this part, I would definately recommend a machine shop, you have to slot the new shaft just how the old shaft is. I did it this way to re-use the spring retainer that goes in the stock shaft. This is done to take the play out of the shaft when they are put together. The length is 2 3/4" and the depth is almost 1/8". When you are doen it should look like this:

The stock shaft is on the left and the new shaft on the right. Just to the left of the new shaft is the spring retainer we are machining for.

Now you clean up your piece and paint it if you want. Then take your lower shaft and slide it into your upper shaft for a test fit (if you machined it yourself that is). You should have this:

And collapsed:


It should be pretty obvious which one is upper and lower, just look at your steering column and gear box. When I installed mine, I installed the upper first and tightened down the bolt. Then I installed the lower, do not forget the spring retainer or you will have play. It is not very slideable with the retainer in there so I used a pickle fork on a joint and tapped it on down from the wheel well. Hope this helps.
 

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

My Renz shaft was plug & play, no mod's to it other than collapsing it.
I bought another one off EBAY that was obviously a different year & it went in no mod's either.

Why take it apart, cut it & put it back together?
 

TYTILIDIE

METH HEAD
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

Because you can do it yourself for $10. Plus, I remember people asking a lot about these semi recently. Didnt Renz stop making them?
 

4C FED

Absolutum Dominium
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

I bought a 88-96 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 steering shaft from EBAY that was a direct bolt in operation. Just remove, replace, done. No cutting, grinding, etc.
 

supersports10

New member
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

TYTILIDIE said:
Because you can do it yourself for $10. Plus, I remember people asking a lot about these semi recently. Didnt Renz stop making them?

just seems like a big hassle to have the machine shop mill a groove in the shaft

time=money, it just comes down to what is your's worth.:D
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

yea i haven't done this for a long time. Got sick of it quite frankly - spent a lot of time cleaning/prepping these, which is why there was a bit of a markup over junkyard prices. At one point i even was paying someone in TX to pull them for me from down there so that i wouldn't have to fight as much PA rust issues. There are a couple different versions of jeep shafts floating around out there. The newer ones are uglier imo, so i never used those. There are some that have 0 dampening rubber in them, like supersport has a couple of - although i question how many of these he can actually find...i've only ever come across 2 of these ever.

Drawbacks of this shaft:
1. its not rebuildable. you can not replace u-joints in it. I tried to source a means of doing this to be able to produce 'new' shafts, but due to the way the ujoints are installed in the shafts...its not possible.

2. it doesn't collapse as far as the stock steering shaft. This would be one reason to cut it down a little bit. The only thing this could possible matter for would be a HARD front end impact collision. Most likley will never become a factor...but for the nervous person out there, wouldbe smart to chop it down a little.

3. firewall end of the shaft isn't a 100% bolt up cleanly in the same fashion as the stock shaft.

and thats about it afaik. Make sure you test the joints well - some are 'clicky' and bad. Some are unsalvageable...some ever if you free up will go back to being bad - had that happen to me once unfortunately...so i know that it does happen.
 

supersports10

New member
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

this is what i offer..
steeringshafts009.jpg



fyi....this is not a jeep shaft.
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

supersports10 said:
i dont follow.......confused........???

all im saying is that mine didnt come from jeeps.:2cents:
just becuase yours didn't, doesn't mean that none do. There have been some on jeeps, whether they were dealer replacements or original equip i don't know - but i know for a fact that there have been some on jeeps.
 

supersports10

New member
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

MikeRenz said:
just becuase yours didn't, doesn't mean that none do. There have been some on jeeps, whether they were dealer replacements or original equip i don't know - but i know for a fact that there have been some on jeeps.

ah....10-4
 

berzerker

wookie
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

if you are looking to replace your steering shaft i recommend the shaft that does not have the rubber coupler just below the upper yoke. i put a junkyard shaft on my truck a year ago , the rubber coupler came apart while driving and i lost steering , not good ! if you already have the shaft with the rubber coupler i recommend removing it and atleast drilling thru the coupler and joining the shaft with a 3/8'' bolt and lock nut for safety .
 

92TYPHOON937

Active member
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

im going to bring this back up i justt pulled two shafts from the yard today

one ffrom a a boxy cherokee and one froma agrand cherokee they look exactly the same just the grand is shorter

so y wouldnt u be able to use either
 

Blazerspeed

New member
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

The shafts are compressible. There is a very good chance that they are the same shaft if the end links are the same. Post some pictures of them side by side. Do they both have the plastic retaining clip?
 

MikeRenz

not stock
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

im going to bring this back up i justt pulled two shafts from the yard today

one ffrom a a boxy cherokee and one froma agrand cherokee they look exactly the same just the grand is shorter

so y wouldnt u be able to use either

from my research, the grand cherokee ones always had different style clamps on the ends. Still bolts up, just ugly. Or maybe the one you found was replaced, or just found an oddball. I'd never seen a grand with the same style shaft.
 

92TYPHOON937

Active member
Re: Jeep Cherokee Steering shaft Mod

here is the pics the short one came out the grand cheerokee and looks the same as the cherokee one just shorter

steering1.jpg


steering3.jpg


steering2.jpg
 
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